More Plainspeak from Bush
Remember how America was sold Bush as a plain spoken Texan.
Today Bush says: "Any activity we conduct is within the law. We do not torture."
But what the fuck does this man mean when he uses the word "torture"? Undoubtedly, its some technical, legalistic argument and not what I or, I would venture, the majority of Americans would think of as torture.
UPDATE: Bush also stated: "I did not have torturous relations with Khalid Sheik Mohammed." (courtesy of Webhub).
Today Bush says: "Any activity we conduct is within the law. We do not torture."
But what the fuck does this man mean when he uses the word "torture"? Undoubtedly, its some technical, legalistic argument and not what I or, I would venture, the majority of Americans would think of as torture.
UPDATE: Bush also stated: "I did not have torturous relations with Khalid Sheik Mohammed." (courtesy of Webhub).
posted by Macswain at
10:45 AM
4 Comments:
didn't Vice just say on Friday or Saturday that the US needs a torture exception?
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Anonymous, at 11:13 AM
"I did not have torturous relations with that prisoner!"
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Anonymous, at 11:17 AM
According to the 2002 memoranda prepared by the Office of Legal Counsel, torture only includes the infliction of pain associated with “permanent and serious physical damage” that “must rise to the level of death, organ failure, or the permanent impairment of a significant body function” (pp. 5-6). If you're interested, here is a more complete description of the white house torture memos and their elaboration on the definition of:
http://balkin.blogspot.com/2005/01/understanding-olc-torture-memos-part-i.html
According to the Office of Legal Counsel, torture does not include conduct which is "cruel, inhuman and degrading." In his testimony before Congress, Alberto Gonzalez refused to agree that such conduct as intentional cigarette burns or a needle under the fingernails would constitute torture, presumably because it would not rise to the level of organ failure or death.
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Anonymous, at 12:20 PM
That was: http://balkin.blogspot.com/2005/01/understanding-olc-torture-memos-part-i.html
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Anonymous, at 12:21 PM
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